Birth Data Available for Octuplets' Mom
NCGR has just sent word in their weekly email that Nadya Suleman's birth information is available by way of Pat Tagliatello over at AstroDatabank.com. The information is from a Birth Certificate.
Nadya Suleman
b. July 11, 1975 9:59 pm Fullerton, CA (St. Jude Hospital)
Sun 20 Cancer; ASC 25 Aquarius; Moon 1 Virgo; MC 9 Sagittarius; NN 29 Scorpio
This puts Suleman's Cancer Sun-Saturn conjunction in her 5th House. Well, you can't argue that Cancer Sun in the House of Children isn't fertile. Saturn just wants something to manage and control.
Suleman has Moon conjunct Venus in Virgo in the 7th House opposing her Aquarius Ascendant and squaring her Nodal Axis (NN 29 Scorpio). Guess that points to the Clinical Birth related to Technological Accomplishments. Scorpio North Node indicates the need to have one's tubes tied, in this case, as Scorpio rules genitilia and the North Node is what one should aim for in life. (In addition to other people's money). This Moon is angular and along with her Cancer Sun indicates a very strong need to be in a nurturing relationship.
Pretty interesting is that Suleman has Neptune conjunct her Sagittarius Midheaven and transiting Neptune is now conjunct her Ascendant just as the Octuplets were born. Your Ascendant is your physical appearance and your Midheaven is your reputation and how others see you in your social sphere and family. Suleman has literally manifested some sort of Neptunian vibe no doubt of vicimization that was handed down to her from her Parents (MC). Either way, I'll bet that Neptune rules Octopi as they are deep sea creatures. 8 arms. 8 kids. And Suleman is now called "Octo Mom." Or "Angelina Jolie mimic" -- very Hollywood, very Neptune.
Cancer Suns can't get away with begging the way that Pisces Suns can so this aspect is maybe not the best time to be trying to ask for handouts from the public, evidentally. This is certainly how people see her. Other people can have Octuplets and be given Pampers up the Yin Yang, but not Single Women. Don't know why Suleman didn't grasp this. Final Dispositor in her Chart is her Mercury. And as I said in a previous post, her progressed Venus went Retrograde in 2000 right when she started going off the wall with having kids. Venus in Virgo is not well placed and the Retrograde can really turn into crazy cat lady mentality pretty fast.
Sagittarius is generally not viewed as a nurturing type of female and nobody really knows what to make of Neptune in contact with it and this is how Suleman is being viewed. Sagittarius can be a bit narcissistic. But, Sagittarius and Aquarius are known as the signs of Independence in Relationships...
Labels: Cancer, Health, Scorpio NN
posted by Out The Comet's Ass @ 3:53 PM
2 Comments:
Good analysis. Do you think the Neptune/SA MC has to do with her making reference to religion at various times and being deceptive about it? (the church she claimed as hers disavowed her as a member).
Additionally, one of the reasons people are not sympathetic to her is her lying about various things (telling boyfriend she had cancer, telling mother she had a tumor, lots of other "slipups"). Also Virgo Moon telling us she thinks her own mother is too critical.
Thanks for the additional information, CA Girl. Yes, Neptune is very deceptive and works its spirituality out in its own private ways which are a mystery to most people. The sense of alienation leads to greater compassion for others I suppose.
I didn't know about all of Suleman's lying. The Biblical references are obviously a joke. She is obviously unbalanced and makes selfish decisions. I have found, regretably, that my fellow Cancerians can often be compulsive liars in relationships. There are many who aren't but I tend to approach all Water Signs with caution in this regard. Since Pluto has been passing through my 7th House for the last few years I think I've probably met an example of this type from all the Astrological signs, though.
Suleman seems to be very spoiled by her parents. The fact that her Mother is supporting her while publicly humiliating her with non-stop criticisms shows a lot of confusion in her own parenting skills. It's perhaps exaggerated by the Virgo Moon conjunct Venus, imo. It's extra exaggerated by it's angular placement in her chart and also by Venus' Retrograde by progression which shows an inability to move beyond. At any rate, I saw an interview with her Mother rabidly criticizing her publicly which I thought was very odd, so there is blatant negative Virgo stuff going on in that relationship. Her Mother is too critical, but I'd have placed her in the Leo Moon category because she makes a show of it.
In the end, I think the kids deserve public support. They are double Aquarians, after all. There are at least 12 million illegal aliens in this country who have given birth to huge quantities of children in order to stay in the country. The quantities in which they are born far surpass the economic realities into which they are born. I see this as the same tendency to exploit one's children for personal gain as what Suleman is doing. Their parents are just as dishonest and bringing them up in a society which isn't treating them well. They are even demanding all kinds of special treatments. Why are people being so mean to this one woman who is essentially pulling the same stunt? Many of the aliens are single Mothers and they are seen as being noble as in the movie "Maria Full of Grace". In reality, they are raising a community that contributes to society a freakishly high homicide and crime rate .. As a "California Girl" I can assure you that I've been physically attacked more times than I can count by these needy people.
At any rate, thanks for your comment.
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