How Many Kids Can You Cram Into A Shoe?
A California woman, Nadya Suleman, has given birth to 14 children via in vitro fertilization. On Jan. 27, 2009 she gave birth to the first surviving set of Octuplets. This is the last set of kids that she can have due to her age so she loaded them all in all at once.
Octuplets
born Jan. 27, 2009 between 10:43 and 10:48am in Bellflower, CA.
Sun 8 Aquarius; Moon 25 Aquarius; NN 10 Aquarius; ASC Aries or Taurus
Well, they say that Aquarians like to do things in groups so maybe the astrology partly explains the babies' good health -- they simply enjoyed being born together in a crowd. With 4 planets in Aquarius, 3 in Capricorn and 2 in Pisces these kids will grow up to be highly intelligent, probably nuclear physicists who can grow up to build some really cool new age bombs as a way of dealing with their frustration.
A great interpretation of the babies' charts is available from 21st Century Astrology blog: http://sjordanastrology.blogspot.com/2009/02/aquarian-octuplets.html.
Mom says that she never recovered from her lonely childhood as an only child. So, she's decided to have an even lonelier adulthood as a single Mother. Right on. People are commenting on the money she won from a law suit where she was beaten by a patient at a Mental Hospital where she worked. People are commenting on what looks like several plastic surgeries. The State Medical Board is investigating her Doctor who obviously has a bigger problem. Guess she was in a hurry to have all her remaining eggs implanted before the Age 34 cut off date when she would no longer be able ti have them implanted. She split up with her husband in 2000 and divorced him in 2007.
Well, this chart has the Uranus-Neptune mutual reception all over it. The Sun and Moon and South Node are all in Aquarius. The kids were born between two Aquarius Eclipses. Mom is indicated by Moon. The Moon in the kids' charts is conjunct Neptune.
Mercury is Retrograde which indicates to me being born into a situation for which there really are no words. Mercury is in Capricorn along with Mars and Pluto. Interesting that Capricorn is the sign which traditionally is thought to rule Fatherhood and these children are born without a Father. Saturn, ruler of Capricorn, is a Handle figure in the Bucket Shaped charts of the kids who were born by Ceasarian section within 5 minutes of each other. The Mother's reasons for wanting to have so many children are said to be rooted in her lonely childhood as a single child. Don't know how she justifies having 14 kids as a single Mother, nothing seems more lonely to me but maybe now the media tents and vans parked outside her home 24/7 are keeping her company.
Really, this isn't about the kids, it's about the Mom. Wikipedia now has provided a birth date for her. By interesting coincidence she's born about a month after Angelina Jolie. She's a Cancer Sun like me. Hate it when this happens. The little water bearers will have to hold their Watery mom up their whole lives.
Nadya Suleman
b. July 11, 1975 Bellflower, CA
Sun 19 Cancer; Moon Leo or Virgo; NN 30 Scorpio
Right off the bat the chart shows why Suleman is lonely. She has Sun conjunct Saturn in Cancer squaring Jupiter-Chiron 23-28 Aries. Naturally there is a sense of being alone and having to be more responsible than others. The Cancer-Saturn thing can show an ego desire to control. This woman might prefer to give birth without a Father around with whom she has to share anything. Sun square Jupiter might have a problem with overdoing things as Jupiter rules excess and Sun rules Confidence. A Cancer Sun combined with a Scorpio North Node share a possessiveness that might not be considered healthy.
Suleman's Venus is at 1 Virgo. Venus rules a woman's method of showing love. In Virgo it is not considered an easy placement. Venus in Virgo wants to love through hard work and analysis. Since she's given birth to an entire childcare center's worth of kids this woman is fulfilling her Venus. This Venus is squaring (challenging) the Nodal Axis, with North Node at 30 Scorpio, a destiny filled with deep dark yearnings and maybe a few misplaced motives.
Interesting that Suleman has a natal Saturn-Uranus square which is reflected in the current opposition between these planets. The natal chart actually has a t-square involving Jupiter at 23 Aries is involved in a t-square opposing Uranus 29 Libra and squaring Saturn 23 Cancer. With Saturn as apex planet there is again emphasis on Fatherly, parenting control issues. SAturn and Uranus are forever bound together in myth as the struggle with Fatherhood.
Can't place Suleman's Moon without a time of birth. The Noontime chart gives a Leo Moon. If later in the day it will be conjunct the Virgo Venus. With all this drama I assume she's got a Leo Moon but who knows?
Interesting that this chart has no out of bounds planets and no singleton, if Moon is in Leo and not in Virgo. People comment on how sane this woman seems. She doesn't seem out of balance but look at what she's actually done. She's probably going to be able to provide for her children through all the media attention and through the help of her mother so maybe she's not nuts.... Mercury in Suleman's chart is at 30 Gemini. This is on the Cancer Aries Point and Cancer is the sign of Motherhood and Families. Gemini likes to do things in multiples and has been receiving extra attention from the opposition of transiting Pluto (Planet that rules Fame on the point of the chart that rules Fame in Family matters).
Suleman's story shows up really well in her progressed planets. Progressed Sun is traveling through Leo, sign of creativity and children and fun. She's certainly putting a dramatic spotlight on those areas of life. Her history shows that 1999 was a year of major change for her. Her parents divorced and she was injured during a riot by the patients while working at a Mental Hospital on Sept. 18, 1999 Norwalk, CA. Her back was hurt and she hasn't worked since. At the time she was married and was separated from her husband in 2000. It is said that she has since suffered from Depression, all along having in vitro fertilization. Can't remember for sure but I think she had 3 miscarriages and then gave birth to her other children after this time. Can't imagine giving a woman with this much hormonal stuff anti-depressants but modern medicine is really going out on to some stupid limbs these days. Her doctors are being investigated and it will be interesting to see if they are held responsible for any of this. I know I've got a skewed impression, but, sorry, I was raised by a single mother....
Matching the Progressions up with Suleman's events is what's really interesting. For one, her progressed Mars (natally at 8 Taurus and apex of a Yod to a Neptune-Pluto sextile) is at 30 Taurus. This is conjunct her South Node. Mars rules Men in a woman's life. It also rules children and especially boys.
Her progressed Venus, feeling of being loveable, started moving Retrograde in 1999 which would indicate feelings of inadequacy in that area, something which is already described by the insecurities of the Venus in Virgo placement. This is when her parents divorced. And it is when she was involved in a mass riot in a mental hospital and is the year before she separated from her husband. This aspect alone is enough for reading all of her problems. Those damn Doctors need to take a quick class in secondary progressions...
Suleman's progressed Sun is currently at 21 Leo. This could be in conjunction with her natal Moon. It certainly explains the need to surround herself with a circus. And middle degrees Fixed Signs were hit by a big Eclipse-Grand Square aspect in August, 1999 (I believe, memory?). This would have hit her progressed Sun pretty squarely. And, of course, it is being hit by the current series of Aquarius/Leo eclipses.
Octuplets
born Jan. 27, 2009 between 10:43 and 10:48am in Bellflower, CA.
Sun 8 Aquarius; Moon 25 Aquarius; NN 10 Aquarius; ASC Aries or Taurus
Well, they say that Aquarians like to do things in groups so maybe the astrology partly explains the babies' good health -- they simply enjoyed being born together in a crowd. With 4 planets in Aquarius, 3 in Capricorn and 2 in Pisces these kids will grow up to be highly intelligent, probably nuclear physicists who can grow up to build some really cool new age bombs as a way of dealing with their frustration.
A great interpretation of the babies' charts is available from 21st Century Astrology blog: http://sjordanastrology.blogspot.com/2009/02/aquarian-octuplets.html.
Mom says that she never recovered from her lonely childhood as an only child. So, she's decided to have an even lonelier adulthood as a single Mother. Right on. People are commenting on the money she won from a law suit where she was beaten by a patient at a Mental Hospital where she worked. People are commenting on what looks like several plastic surgeries. The State Medical Board is investigating her Doctor who obviously has a bigger problem. Guess she was in a hurry to have all her remaining eggs implanted before the Age 34 cut off date when she would no longer be able ti have them implanted. She split up with her husband in 2000 and divorced him in 2007.
Well, this chart has the Uranus-Neptune mutual reception all over it. The Sun and Moon and South Node are all in Aquarius. The kids were born between two Aquarius Eclipses. Mom is indicated by Moon. The Moon in the kids' charts is conjunct Neptune.
Mercury is Retrograde which indicates to me being born into a situation for which there really are no words. Mercury is in Capricorn along with Mars and Pluto. Interesting that Capricorn is the sign which traditionally is thought to rule Fatherhood and these children are born without a Father. Saturn, ruler of Capricorn, is a Handle figure in the Bucket Shaped charts of the kids who were born by Ceasarian section within 5 minutes of each other. The Mother's reasons for wanting to have so many children are said to be rooted in her lonely childhood as a single child. Don't know how she justifies having 14 kids as a single Mother, nothing seems more lonely to me but maybe now the media tents and vans parked outside her home 24/7 are keeping her company.
Really, this isn't about the kids, it's about the Mom. Wikipedia now has provided a birth date for her. By interesting coincidence she's born about a month after Angelina Jolie. She's a Cancer Sun like me. Hate it when this happens. The little water bearers will have to hold their Watery mom up their whole lives.
Nadya Suleman
b. July 11, 1975 Bellflower, CA
Sun 19 Cancer; Moon Leo or Virgo; NN 30 Scorpio
Right off the bat the chart shows why Suleman is lonely. She has Sun conjunct Saturn in Cancer squaring Jupiter-Chiron 23-28 Aries. Naturally there is a sense of being alone and having to be more responsible than others. The Cancer-Saturn thing can show an ego desire to control. This woman might prefer to give birth without a Father around with whom she has to share anything. Sun square Jupiter might have a problem with overdoing things as Jupiter rules excess and Sun rules Confidence. A Cancer Sun combined with a Scorpio North Node share a possessiveness that might not be considered healthy.
Suleman's Venus is at 1 Virgo. Venus rules a woman's method of showing love. In Virgo it is not considered an easy placement. Venus in Virgo wants to love through hard work and analysis. Since she's given birth to an entire childcare center's worth of kids this woman is fulfilling her Venus. This Venus is squaring (challenging) the Nodal Axis, with North Node at 30 Scorpio, a destiny filled with deep dark yearnings and maybe a few misplaced motives.
Interesting that Suleman has a natal Saturn-Uranus square which is reflected in the current opposition between these planets. The natal chart actually has a t-square involving Jupiter at 23 Aries is involved in a t-square opposing Uranus 29 Libra and squaring Saturn 23 Cancer. With Saturn as apex planet there is again emphasis on Fatherly, parenting control issues. SAturn and Uranus are forever bound together in myth as the struggle with Fatherhood.
Can't place Suleman's Moon without a time of birth. The Noontime chart gives a Leo Moon. If later in the day it will be conjunct the Virgo Venus. With all this drama I assume she's got a Leo Moon but who knows?
Interesting that this chart has no out of bounds planets and no singleton, if Moon is in Leo and not in Virgo. People comment on how sane this woman seems. She doesn't seem out of balance but look at what she's actually done. She's probably going to be able to provide for her children through all the media attention and through the help of her mother so maybe she's not nuts.... Mercury in Suleman's chart is at 30 Gemini. This is on the Cancer Aries Point and Cancer is the sign of Motherhood and Families. Gemini likes to do things in multiples and has been receiving extra attention from the opposition of transiting Pluto (Planet that rules Fame on the point of the chart that rules Fame in Family matters).
Suleman's story shows up really well in her progressed planets. Progressed Sun is traveling through Leo, sign of creativity and children and fun. She's certainly putting a dramatic spotlight on those areas of life. Her history shows that 1999 was a year of major change for her. Her parents divorced and she was injured during a riot by the patients while working at a Mental Hospital on Sept. 18, 1999 Norwalk, CA. Her back was hurt and she hasn't worked since. At the time she was married and was separated from her husband in 2000. It is said that she has since suffered from Depression, all along having in vitro fertilization. Can't remember for sure but I think she had 3 miscarriages and then gave birth to her other children after this time. Can't imagine giving a woman with this much hormonal stuff anti-depressants but modern medicine is really going out on to some stupid limbs these days. Her doctors are being investigated and it will be interesting to see if they are held responsible for any of this. I know I've got a skewed impression, but, sorry, I was raised by a single mother....
Matching the Progressions up with Suleman's events is what's really interesting. For one, her progressed Mars (natally at 8 Taurus and apex of a Yod to a Neptune-Pluto sextile) is at 30 Taurus. This is conjunct her South Node. Mars rules Men in a woman's life. It also rules children and especially boys.
Her progressed Venus, feeling of being loveable, started moving Retrograde in 1999 which would indicate feelings of inadequacy in that area, something which is already described by the insecurities of the Venus in Virgo placement. This is when her parents divorced. And it is when she was involved in a mass riot in a mental hospital and is the year before she separated from her husband. This aspect alone is enough for reading all of her problems. Those damn Doctors need to take a quick class in secondary progressions...
Suleman's progressed Sun is currently at 21 Leo. This could be in conjunction with her natal Moon. It certainly explains the need to surround herself with a circus. And middle degrees Fixed Signs were hit by a big Eclipse-Grand Square aspect in August, 1999 (I believe, memory?). This would have hit her progressed Sun pretty squarely. And, of course, it is being hit by the current series of Aquarius/Leo eclipses.
Labels: Cancer, Eclipses, Family, progressed Venus, Saturn-Uranus, Scorpio NN
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