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Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Melissa Huckaby and the Columbine Shooters?

The whole idea of Motherhood is getting turned on his head by society these days. Is this a Pluto in Capricorn thing? Cancer and the Moon rule Motherhood and Capricorn is the opposing sign. We're getting a reality check here. And actually what we're getting is a cleansing because women have been doing this kind of thing for as far back as Lilith (at least). I wonder if the husband or the oldest son just ended up taking the blame or what. (Ever since I heard a really great lecture about Lilith at UAC in Denver last year I've been wanting to study her more. Sorry, I've forgotten the speaker's name, a German astrologer, will have to find that...)

I've found a tentative date for Melissa Huckaby's birth date and can't vouch for its accuracy. I think the website I got it from is called "websleuths.?" Melissa Huckaby is the 28 year old Mother who has been arrested for the abduction, murder and possible molestation of 8 year old Sandra Cantu in Tracy, California.

Melissa
Huckaby
b. Feb. 23, 1981 Orange County, CA (I used the city of Orange, that will change probably)


Sun 6 Pisces; Moon Libra or Scorpio;
NN 10 Leo

It seems that Huckaby might be a Pisces Sun just because she has those water eyes. Her Sun here would be conjunct Mars at 14 Pisces and squaring Uranus at 1 Sagittarius. That could explain an erratic, excitable personality. Of course, she's going through a Divorce and that over any chart of any type will encourage erratic behaviors and feelings of anger in a person.

I don't want to go on and on about Huckaby's chart until there's more solid information but what struck me last night as I was reading the newspaper was the reminder of the 10th anniversary of the Columbine Shootings. I looked up the charts of Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold and was struck that they were both born in 1981. That's the same year as Melissa Huckaby. That was the year that Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto were all in Libra.

First it's good to whittle down the chart to notice that all 3 of these people had/have strong Mars aspects in their natal charts to indicate that they might be either loaded with Mars vitality and life force or impulsiveness, rashness, and a tendency to anger, depending on their situations in life.
  • Harris was an Aries Sun conjunct Mars and Venus and opposing Pluto. That's classic school shooter stuff at this point which is totally unfair to say to all the zillions of people who were born on this day and don't go ballistic at the drop of a hat (I apologize to the zillions, but it keeps coming up).
  • Klebold had a conjunction of Mars to the North Node.
  • Huckaby has a natal Sun-Mars conjunction squaring Uranus.
Depending on their birth times all three may have strong Moon-Pluto contacts if their Moons are at or very close to the end of the Air Signs in their charts.

All three of these people were born with a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Libra. This is hardly what I imagine a Killer aspect to be. As a matter of fact it seems to be a very social, peace and harmony kind of aspect. They are setting precedents within the social structures of society with their crimes. What stands out is that both Jupiter and Saturn would have then passed over Pluto very early in their lives. That's a lot of outer planet activity (social knowledge) for a little baby to input and could have caused major stress or "trigger" points for later transits in babies born that year who didn't receive any resolve. Jupiter-Pluto can bring too much of something. That would have happened between Age 6 mos and 9 mos. And then Saturn-Pluto can take it all away or bring some kind of ruthless, unfair loss at around Age 1 1/2 in these people's cases. As Pluto tends to bring crises perhaps there is a non-stop memory of crisis that these people couldn't work out of their systems from very early life. I'm not looking up exact dates as Pluto transits tend to have long after effects, in adults at any rate. A person might later on in life react to circumstances that are out of his personal control (outer planet aspects create a need to deal with the world on a larger scale) with an elevated sense of some kind.

These are very strong outer planet contacts are difficult for an adult to digest, let alone a baby. It seems that perhaps if this stress isn't acknowledged and healed by any of the adults around the child then later transits would set it off when hitting that spot in their charts. That certainly seems to be what happens here but through unexpected trine outer planet transits in Aquarius that hit natal Pluto at the end of Libra. Uranus at 24 Aquarius would have trined Harris and Klebold's Pluto and Neptune would have trined Huckaby's at the times of their crimes (alleged crimes).

Since I don't have birth times for any of these people I don't know where their Moon placements are, but there is a chance that all 3 had Moon in Air Signs that would have been in strong aspect to Pluto, either a trine or conjunction. So, their Moons would have been involved. Moon-Pluto aspects are certainly very complex from an emotional stand-point. The child's feelings may have to be suppressed to very deep levels in reaction to insecurities in the Mother/family.

A stressed Moon would make sense as major motivators in these crimes as Moon Cycles were activated at the times of their crimes. Harris was 18 and approaching his Nodal Return and Huckaby is 28, time around the Secondary Progressed Moon Return. Klebold's major expression seems to come through feelings of being lost and rejected and a sense of the futility of it all. At least that's how I read the negative side of his Virgo Sun square Neptune. Interesting that he had 5 planets in Libra opposing Harris' Sun-Mars-Venus in the opposite side of Aries. That's a classic pair by astrological standards.

The Nodal Placements of the natal and transiting crime event charts also stand out here. Harris and Huckaby were born about a month and a half apart from each other and both had North Node within 2 degrees of each other in Leo. Columbine happened on Apr. 20, 1999 when Harris was approaching a Nodal Return in Leo. Sandra Cantu went missing when the North Node was at 7 Aquarius (a Nodal opposition) when Huckaby was going through a Nodal Opposition. I remember someone making a comment on one of my posts concerning one of the school shooters from a few years back about Leo North Node being common among the school shooters.

Dylan Klebold was born with North Node at 30 Cancer so it was just moved off the Leo-Aquarius Axis by a degree but still affected by that energy as North Node was conjunction Mars 7 Leo (and squaring Venus 29 Libra-Pluto 23 Libra).

Another similarity: there was a Mars-Saturn opposition during both crimes. And there was a difficult Venus-Pluto aspect as well. Venus-Pluto opposition in Columbine and Venus-Pluto square in the Cantu murder.

Columbine happened while the Sun was at 1 Taurus conjunction Saturn 6 Taurus and opposing Mars 6 Scorpio. (this would have squared the 1981 placement for Pluto making it extra potent for people born that year).

The Mars-Saturn opposition of the Cantu murder was actually a Mars Return for alleged murderer Melissa Huckaby. It was extra powerful for her because it hit her natal Sun and squared her natal Uranus. The Sun-VenusRx in Aries conjunction would have opposed Huckaby's Jupiter-Saturn conjunction. Venus Rx is continuing this long transit opposing her Jupiter-Saturn conjunction. And it's in square aspect to transiting Pluto. The transiting Aries Moon may have been opposing her natal Pluto and/or Moon as well.

Eric Harris
born Apr. 9, 1981

Sun 20 Aries; Moon Gemini or Cancer; NN 8 Leo.

Dylan Klebold
b. Sept. 11, 1981

Sun 19 Virgo; Moon Aquarius; NN 30 Cancer

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4 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi, OTCA,

The idea that Pluto in Cap could be turning the concept of motherhood on its head is a real possibility (and a scary one). and also interesting that you should bring up the Columbine shooters--the number of school massacres that occurred while Pluto was in Sagg was similarly a case of Pluto waging all-out assault on concepts (children, schools) ruled by the sign it was opposing (Gemini).

I've been wondering a couple of things about Melissa Huckaby. the first question I had was whether she may have sexually violated Sandra's body post mortem, so that if/when the body was discovered, Sandra would appear to be the victim of a male sexual predator. I guess I had the thought because a woman committing a crime of this nature is so unusual. a lot of the tv experts are saying there's really no existing prototype (is that the right word? I don't know).

but this morning I was thinking, just off in space somewhere, and I remembered Sybil's mother. ack, I can't remember Sybil's real name, but do remember the author who documented her story--Flora Rheta Schreiber. and I know that through the years there have been challenges to the Sybil diagnosis, but as written, Sybil's mother was a schizophrenic who regularly violated Sybil with a horrifying array of foreign objects, from the time Sybil was little more than a baby.

also Melissa has been living with her grandparents. Grandparents come under Cancer/4th house, I think, and Cap/Saturn could double-down on the relevance of an older and (ostensibly) wiser presence in the household.

also, isn't someone in the household a minister? could Pluto in Cap be dredging up some sort of issue pertaining to a fundamentalist upbringing?

this is a horrendous case, but already looks like it could be yet another harbinger of the kinds of issues that could be dredged up by Pluto in Cap.

8:28 PM  
Blogger Out The Comet's Ass said...

Hi Kaylin,

Thanks for your comments! That's an interesting point about the school shooters and Pluto in Sagittarius.

I've heard that some people are speculating on exactly what you said about the sexual abuse done as a way to cover up for the murder. On the other hand, Huckaby could be delusional or molester. In my research on step families there's so much unbelievable abuse coming from step parents that I don't really even understand why people are are saying that this is rare. Women abuse other people's kids on a very regular basis, I assure you. I wrote a blog a long time ago about a man whose step-mother convinced his father to give him a lobotomy!

I'm sort of in disbelief about what these "experts" know and don't know. What if a kid's going through abuse and looks for help? Do these experts just assume that he/she is lying? I know that boys can never admit that any of this type of abuse would bother them. It's funny how we can think of men as molesters but women in that role is taboo.

Thanks for bringing up the story about Sybil. I went to an art show once of drawings of one woman's memories of being sexually molested by her mother. It was one of the scariest sets of images I've ever seen.

Interesting connections between the Grandparents and the astrology. The Saturn-Mars opposition was layered over the 1st-7th Houses at the time that Sandra was last seen. I don't know what time the murder was, of course, but with Saturn in the 1st House I would suspect that an older man had something to do with this. If it was up in the 12th House (about 2 hours after missing) then I suppose the religious upbringing would come out pretty strongly -- repressed feelings of rage and sacrifice. Have no way of knowing what time to use, of course.

Both victim and murderer were Pisces. Maybe that right there is an indicator of Saturn in the 12th.

11:00 PM  
Blogger California Girl said...

Some random thoughts -
Pluto in Cap might be messing with motherhood. Something is happening - might add that female teachers having sexual encounters with underage students seems to be happening more too. Don't know how this fits but seems like it might be related. Huckaby was a Sunday school teacher as well. (Pluto seems to be "forever changing" lives for some Capricorns such as Spector and Mel Gibson already.)
As for Libra Saturn-Jupiter, Libra is the only zodiac sign that is a machine instead of a living being. For all the hype that Libra is the socially-aware, relationship-oriented sign, Libra may well use these skills as bartering chips to attain goals vs real feelings.
A psychologist on a recent crime talk show stated that Huckaby was likely acting out something that had happened to her as a child in terms of sexually violating the victim. This seems to be the case with most child molesters.
As for Pisces, Casey Anthony is also one.
The NN in Leo = Leo the sign of the child and the NN being "destiny". I have also noticed that there seem to be a lot of Leo children who go missing or are murdered (Jon Benet Ramsey, Caylee Anthony and Hayleigh Cummings come to mind). Or at least those are the ones who get the most press.

6:26 AM  
Blogger Out The Comet's Ass said...

Thanks for the comments, California Girl. It will be interesting to see Pluto in Cap will affect how society views Motherhood. Interesting point about the school teacher's all getting caught while Pluto was in Sagittarius. This whole thing about the Sunday School teacher possibly being a molester is just straight out of a horror movie or something.

Sorry, you think that Libras are machines. They are very mental and intellectual. One would naturally have to distance one's self mentally in order to commit these crimes. And of all the signs I would expect them to be least likely to be alone. I never really thought of it this way but I suppose that the mass murderers are actually showing a very social side. I have problems with anger myself but it's completely beyond me why someone would want to express it in that way. I'm not very social, though. The Leo North node maybe just wants to put on a show, go out with a bang. Interesting point about the Leo children. I tried to collect and tabulate the birth dates on the "Have you Seen Me?" signs to see who was most likely to be abducted. It seemed to be a seasonal thing. For a long time the mutable signs seemed to be the major targets, especially the Virgos, then it started switching to someone else.

Pisces and Virgo right now are under heavy transits right now so it makes sense that they might be either acting worse than usual or just getting caught. I think many went overboard with the power thing while Pluto was squaring their Suns. I think we're all going to be getting caught, though, with Pluto in Capricorn.

12:47 PM  

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