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Sunday, October 08, 2006

Marie Antoinette's Sex Life

Books' published, PBS show, Movie coming out, Camille Paglia writing up an article for the Sunday Paper. Thought I'd take a look to see what Marie Antoinette's Sex Life really was in Astro terms.

Here's a link to her chart:

Sex is ruled mostly by the 8th House, Scorpio's House. This is also the House that rules Death. Sort of an Astrological Joke that says "As Ye have Sex in Life, So Shall Ye Die..." 8th House also rules Taxes and Insurance. So, "As You Have Sex in Life, So Shall Ye Owe the Government and Mutual of Omaha." Well, 8th House Affairs are complicated.

To be expected, Marie's 8th House aspects weren't all that great. Her natal chart shows Capricorn on the cusp, ruling the 8th House. Capricorn rules Government, Duties, Ambitions, Repressed Emotional Needs, Long Waits and Delays. This would explain an arranged marriage of Royalty and delayed sex within Marriage (8 years for Louis to get it up). This is markedly pronounced in Marie's chart because Capricorn's ruler, Saturn, is in her 8th House along with Chiron (the Wounded Healer). Saturn brings things on slowly, so it is amazing that she died by guillotine, which is a quick death, but could be explained that she died due to her snobbishness and selfish neglect for her job and duties. Saturn is involved within a t-square opposite Mars in Cancer in the First House and the Moon in her 5th House. This is an emotionally volatile combination (maybe she suffered from Depression or Bipolar illness) which would look to the affairs of the 11th House to find resolve for the tensions within herself. 11th House rules friends, groups, wishes, dreams, rebellious behaviors.

One must also look at Scorpio's placement within the Natal Chart for matters of the ... Heart. This shows quite another story. Scorpio is intercepted within the 5th House of Fun, Parties, Creativity and Children so it's expression is completely contained within this House. It also doesn't rule a House on its own which could bring the matters it rules forth in a tense, extreme sort of way. Marie A. had 4 planets in her 5th House showing that this House was where she put most of her energies: girls just want to have fun. Sex would have been an outcrop of fun that she feared the consequences of.

5th House also rules Royalty so she was a natural Queen, probably felt more like she was acting the part, but she definitely would have had fun with it. In this House her Sun is conjunct Venus which compounds the Fun, Creative, Party Girl theme tenfold. She was vain, maybe a bit spoiled and attracted resentment as a result. In addition, this conjunction is involved in a Water Grand Trine with really fun party planets: Uranus in Pisces in H10 and Mars in H1 in Cancer. This combination could really give a sexual vibe, she was a real tease and she would have been open-minded about all kinds of dalliances. Some girls just wanna have fun. She could have out-partied Paris Hilton. Unfortunately with that heavy 8th house she's the type who would have gotten caught as there is a heavy karmic vibe of payback associated with Capricorn. I also wouldn't be surprised if she hadn't been raped. Mars in Cancer can have a very volatile side and in the First House could be very in your face. She may not always have been discreet about her dalliances either, kind of switching back and forth between Scorpio secrecy and Leo showiness. Her Libra Moon was quite social but shows a strong attachment to her mother.

It's interesting that all this attention is now coming to her during her Uranus Return. 10th House shows how one is perceived. With Pisces on her MC, Marie Antoinette would have seemed very glamorous but nebulous, maybe lost, not much of a leader unless given to a Monk. I do remember reading that she loved to play like a poor peasant out in her country cottage, this was her way of expressing the Pisces compassion. With Uranus in her 10th House she came across as distant and uncaring, maybe downright weird and shocking.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should write more about the 8th house, namely it's impact on repressed or overly expressed sexuality. But especially the first.

Otherwise, love the work. ;)

5:19 AM  
Blogger Out the Comet's Ass said...

Good point Anonymous. I think that Saturn ruled both her 7th and 8th houses. There's a lot there about duty and repression.

2:31 PM  
Blogger Out the Comet's Ass said...

P.S. I think that the Saturn influence may have just diverted the energy into the stronger 5th house influences. She redirected (Saturnian managerial) her compulsions into the funhouse.

If you come back I'd like to hear your thoughts about this. Wrote this a really long time ago...

11:37 AM  
Blogger Rocellin said...

How do you get chiron in her eight house. I've done her chart myself and her chiron is in her seventh house, which really makes just as much sense as the eighth and i looked up another chart that puts her chiron in aquarius in her ninth. so please respond personally id love a chat.

2:34 PM  
Blogger Out The Comet's Ass said...

Hi Rocellin,

It looks like I was using the chart that is posted on Astrotheme. I have no idea whether or not it's accurate.

7:32 PM  

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